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	<title>Comments on: Review of Outlier&#8217;s Daily Riding Pant for women</title>
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		<title>By: courtney</title>
		<link>http://cycleandstyle.com/2010/03/outliers-daily-riding-pant-for-women/comment-page-1/#comment-2618</link>
		<dc:creator>courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 04:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can someone else also please comment on the quality of craftsmanship?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can someone else also please comment on the quality of craftsmanship?</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://cycleandstyle.com/2010/03/outliers-daily-riding-pant-for-women/comment-page-1/#comment-1739</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, thank you so much! I appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, thank you so much! I appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara McKee</title>
		<link>http://cycleandstyle.com/2010/03/outliers-daily-riding-pant-for-women/comment-page-1/#comment-1736</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara McKee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alison, I rec&#039;d this information from Abe Burmeister of Outlier:
The pant are water resistant, but not water proof. They repel light rain, but will get wet in heavier rain showers or in longer exposures to light rain. If they do wet out they dry far faster then most fabrics so you find yourself comfortable and dry soon after getting out of the rain. (Drying time varies greatly with the temperature and humidity, but generally you&#039;ll be dry in about 10-30 minutes.)  As for using them as a replacement for rain pants, that really depends. They breathe dramatically better then any waterproof breathable fabric, so they are far more comfortable in most situations. But they do wet out so their feasibility as a replacement for rain pants really depends on personal preference. Personally I think they work better for any situation where you are in the rain for under an hour, or when it&#039;s warm and humid out. When you are outside in the rain for long stretches and it&#039;s relatively cool out then a Gore-tex type waterproof-&quot;breathable&quot; makes sense. But if you can get out of the rain relatively quickly it&#039;s way nicer to be wearing a fabric that truly breathes properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alison, I rec&#8217;d this information from Abe Burmeister of Outlier:<br />
The pant are water resistant, but not water proof. They repel light rain, but will get wet in heavier rain showers or in longer exposures to light rain. If they do wet out they dry far faster then most fabrics so you find yourself comfortable and dry soon after getting out of the rain. (Drying time varies greatly with the temperature and humidity, but generally you&#8217;ll be dry in about 10-30 minutes.)  As for using them as a replacement for rain pants, that really depends. They breathe dramatically better then any waterproof breathable fabric, so they are far more comfortable in most situations. But they do wet out so their feasibility as a replacement for rain pants really depends on personal preference. Personally I think they work better for any situation where you are in the rain for under an hour, or when it&#8217;s warm and humid out. When you are outside in the rain for long stretches and it&#8217;s relatively cool out then a Gore-tex type waterproof-&#8221;breathable&#8221; makes sense. But if you can get out of the rain relatively quickly it&#8217;s way nicer to be wearing a fabric that truly breathes properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://cycleandstyle.com/2010/03/outliers-daily-riding-pant-for-women/comment-page-1/#comment-1730</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have worn these pants in the rain? Do they work as a replacement for rain pants?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have worn these pants in the rain? Do they work as a replacement for rain pants?</p>
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		<title>By: larryjack</title>
		<link>http://cycleandstyle.com/2010/03/outliers-daily-riding-pant-for-women/comment-page-1/#comment-1547</link>
		<dc:creator>larryjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am tired of the levis, dickies, etc for riding. i average over 40 miles a day everyday, and would like what outlier appears to have on their website; a straight, simple, clean lined, well tailored bike pant made with good quality bike-functional material. the problem is in reality their tailoring is terrible. their patterns are poorly designed (too much flare and too high rise as well as bad clowny pockets on og&#039;s and workwear, bad gussett design in workwear, etc). really, jeans have far more moveability than the workwears (they really are the most difficult pants for riding i&#039;ve ever worn). the climbers look cool and with a better cut; but like all the pants, the stitching is twisted or they don&#039;t lay smooth on sides, etc. really, just poor craftsmanship. if they made a climber cut with a thicker material to rest better, or did their workwear with a lower rise, more tapered leg, no gussett, and just a little stretch...i would happily support these guys. bottom line: poorly designed and poor/random/inconsistent construction. hopefully this review will encourage better quality from outlier, as i really do like their asthetic/idea, and i would love a good quality bike pant. otherwise it&#039;s a matter of time before rapha makes one out of their schoeller. maybe rapha&#039;s design will be lame, but the quality will be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am tired of the levis, dickies, etc for riding. i average over 40 miles a day everyday, and would like what outlier appears to have on their website; a straight, simple, clean lined, well tailored bike pant made with good quality bike-functional material. the problem is in reality their tailoring is terrible. their patterns are poorly designed (too much flare and too high rise as well as bad clowny pockets on og&#8217;s and workwear, bad gussett design in workwear, etc). really, jeans have far more moveability than the workwears (they really are the most difficult pants for riding i&#8217;ve ever worn). the climbers look cool and with a better cut; but like all the pants, the stitching is twisted or they don&#8217;t lay smooth on sides, etc. really, just poor craftsmanship. if they made a climber cut with a thicker material to rest better, or did their workwear with a lower rise, more tapered leg, no gussett, and just a little stretch&#8230;i would happily support these guys. bottom line: poorly designed and poor/random/inconsistent construction. hopefully this review will encourage better quality from outlier, as i really do like their asthetic/idea, and i would love a good quality bike pant. otherwise it&#8217;s a matter of time before rapha makes one out of their schoeller. maybe rapha&#8217;s design will be lame, but the quality will be there.</p>
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		<title>By: Hpc</title>
		<link>http://cycleandstyle.com/2010/03/outliers-daily-riding-pant-for-women/comment-page-1/#comment-1469</link>
		<dc:creator>Hpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree with your comments on this - thanks for taking the time to post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree with your comments on this &#8211; thanks for taking the time to post.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth O. Hurst</title>
		<link>http://cycleandstyle.com/2010/03/outliers-daily-riding-pant-for-women/comment-page-1/#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth O. Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fabric is stretchy and forms to the ankles, so the pant easily stays out of the way when you&#039;re riding. Comment again if you have any other questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fabric is stretchy and forms to the ankles, so the pant easily stays out of the way when you&#8217;re riding. Comment again if you have any other questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
		<link>http://cycleandstyle.com/2010/03/outliers-daily-riding-pant-for-women/comment-page-1/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Le sigh. These just officially got added to my wishlist. Thanks for the review; as a fellow tall woman that&#039;s valuable info! Does the fabric around the ankles stay out of the way and/or are there zips at the ankles? Is the fabric stretchy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Le sigh. These just officially got added to my wishlist. Thanks for the review; as a fellow tall woman that&#8217;s valuable info! Does the fabric around the ankles stay out of the way and/or are there zips at the ankles? Is the fabric stretchy?</p>
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